Gloucester through the ages - Live!
Survey results and letters about the event
1. Survey results
A Face to Face audience survey was carried out during the 2 day long history festival, interviewing audiences participating in the various events across the city to gain a balanced view. 82 interviews were carried out. Young people and families were targeted, although feedback was gained from a range of audiences. All feedback will be taken forward to an event management team debrief meeting and will be forwarded to the funders of this event, to improve future events in Gloucester.
70% of those surveyed thought the event was excellent. 30% said it was good (the next category down). No-one said that it was average, poor or very poor, the other options.
Please contact Mhairi Smith (below) if you would like more information.
2. A note from Gloucester City Council Events and music development officer:
To Howard and all of your fantastic staff at EventPlan.
What a professional group of workers. Howard, you are the most diligent perfectionist I have ever worked with, and the difference was huge in the finished product! It was the most amazing weekend, superb quality, and everything went so smoothly. I will gladly tell anyone who wants a reference – but I can tell you, your team did me and the City of Gloucester proud.
Thank you for working so very very hard for us. I hope we will have the pleasure of working with you again.
Mhairi Smith
Events and Music Development Officer
Arts and Festivals Team (Culture, Learning and
Leisure)
Arts and Festivals Team
Gloucester City Council
Gloucester Guildhall
23 Eastgate Street
Gloucester
GL1 1NS
T 01452 396386
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E msmith@gloucester.gov.uk
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3. Letters to the local press:
HISTORY PROVES A GRAND TWO DAYS
Date : 26.04.08
For those who enjoy shooting
sitting ducks, Gloucester has offered many targets. Goings-on over gulls,
hideous Christmas lights, the vandalising of the Docks - I've had a go at them
all.
So it's only fair that credit be given where it is due. A good idea well
executed - the Gloucester History Weekend - should also get its share of
attention.
Pity about the weather, of course. The bitter blasts that lashed the city must
have kept namby-pambies at home. But hardier types were out looking for
spectacle and entertainment.
They weren't disappointed.
"Great ain't it? Oi ain't never seen nothin' like this," remarked a chap with a
Midlands accent as the parade rolled by.
At the Docks a boatful of Nelson's sailors blazed away with muskets and cannon.
Elsewhere knights galloped, Romans marched and smoke billowed as redcoats fired
volleys and yelled "God save King George!"
Turn a corner and there was something different to see.
The huge enthusiasm of the re-enactors in the Saxon/Viking battle against the
backdrop of the Cathedral was a pleasure to behold. They piled into each other
with all the gusto possible short of breaking bones. "Dad, dad" yelled one
delighted small boy. "They've killed the Viking king!" What followed was
wonderfully politically incorrect. Small spectators were handed wooden swords
and invited to defeat the invaders for themselves.
For anyone seeking less warlike attractions, there was plenty on offer. I would
like to have seen those but two days weren't enough.
So congratulations all around on what Wallace and Gromit would have called A
Grand Day (make that two days) Out. Let's hope they will be repeated - and the
next time the commentaries won't be drowned by the sound of whistling Arctic
wind and chattering teeth.
DEREK TYSON
Tuffley
HARD WORK WORTHWHILE
Date : 28.04.08
What a splendid parade the
Gloucester Through The Ages was. The work that all those costumes must have
taken, the Home Guard - smashing. King Henry VIII with his wicked wink looked
more than capable of keeping his many wives happy!
Thank you to everyone for all your hard work.
Mrs PEGGY ALBERTS
Sherbourne Street
Gloucester
MAKE IT AT LEAST A YEARLY EVENT
Date : 28.04.08
What a weekend! What a shame the
weather was so cold and nasty! What a shame the event was not advertised in
large letters in the national media!
I agree with everything in this editorial (The Citizen, April 21) but it should
have been blazed on the front page in letters at least an inch high.
The whole weekend was so well organised and presented.
There just wasn't time to see everything. We want it back again in the middle of
summer with a lot more publicity.
What I saw at the weekend could put York and Chester in the shade.
We have the basis already there, surely someone in the council has the
imagination to build on it.
I hope it will be a yearly event at least.
Mrs RUTH GASKIN
Westgate Street
Gloucester
BRING US MORE EVENTS LIKE THIS
Date : 24.04.08
May I say that we had a
fantastic and truly memorable time at the Gloucester Through the Ages weekend.I
would like to thank everyone involved in this project and all the re-enactors,
especially the Romans who must have been very cold, for the part they played in
making sure we all had an enjoyable time. Please, please Gloucester could we
have more events like this one in the future, I certainly came away wanting
more.
Mrs K Greatrix
Gloucester
I MARVELLED AT THE GLORY OF THE AGES
Date : 24.04.08
I know the Festival received outside funding
from English Partnership, the National Lottery and Heritage Lottery Fund. This
may not be repeated.
But it is imperative this Festival so ideally suited to Gloucester should be
sustained and developed. There are many local businesses who have taken much
from this city and in my opinion given little. Now is the time for them to dig
deeply into their funding budgets.
Finally the greatest praise is due to the Events staff of our council leisure
department. In six months we have had the Tall Ships Festival, the Cajun
Festival and now Through the Ages Live organised by them. Visitors have nothing
but praise for Gloucester. Now let's keep this up.
Terry Haines
Gloucester
And in the interests of balance, the only letter received that criticised the event. Our view is that this letter is less than charitable; is not accurate when it refers to the event as "all about guns and soldiers", the view of re-enactors as "thugs" (they aren't) or re-enactors' reaction to ethnic people who ask to join (usually very positive); and extremely ill-informed historically - particularly in relation to Nelson's navy. But it is pretty impossible to please everyone!
Out of interest, the Historic Maritime Society inform us that there is no record of this mutiny, or of a ship of this name within the Royal Navy, so it may well be a spoof story that Mr Magnus fell for. His letter generated a number of replies (see below!) which would seem to indicate that plenty of people do value the accurate recreation of history.
WHAT A SICKENING VERSION OF HISTORY
Date : 03.05.08
I Had the bad luck
to be in Gloucester on Saturday, April 19, and I was sickened. It was some sort
of so-called heritage event and I saw some really terrible stuff. It was
basically not believable, just so backward and reactionary. Haven't we made any
progress in thousands of years? It was all about guns and soldiers. The noise
coming from the docks was dreadful. Where were the minorities? It was just white
supremacists, which is what those guys in the red coats were, their job just to
walk all over people with brown skin.
Lots of the so-called "entertainment" was people in armour doing fake fights.
What a terrible example to set vulnerable kids? Those people were just thugs.
You might as well get hoodies to give one another a good kicking. But what
really got me was that ethnic minorities and other vulnerable communities were
totally excluded. I would like to have seen an ethnic person go up to that lot
and say: "I want to join in and wear a stupid costume like you". That would of
made those so-called 'Warriors' look totally embarrassed and they would have
said 'No' anyway. If they must do this stuff in Gloucester, let's be positive
and pro-life! There are loads of things they could do instead of so-called
"glory" and battles.
There was a great story in Gay Pride magazine. It was about Nelson's sailors who
were gay. On one ship they were called "The Mollies" because the ship was the
Molly Rudge. They were sick of abuse and discrimination so when they captured a
cargo of clothing they all put on women's clothing and refused to fight the
French any more. They put their captain in a boat and said their cat was the
captain now and sailed off to Yucatan where they started a gay colony called
Molliania which sadly was wiped out by native Americans who were victims of
racism so couldn't be blamed.
Why not enact that down the docks?
PETER MAGNUS
Hucclecote Road
Gloucester
Letters to the paper commenting on Mr Magnus' letter:
I read with total disgust of the letter that Mr Magnus had wrote (published in Saturdays edition). He obviously has no idea about what has made Gloucester great, if he had then he would know that what he saw was a very accurate way of celebrating former glories. Why he had to bring race and sexual preference into it I have no idea. We have a very proud past and have had many famous Regiments that made Gloucester and Britain great and any young person watching these events no matter what back ground they come from would of been proud to have been born and brought up in this county. Scott Gloucester
A terrific spoof, what a pity this wasn't April 1st. Particularly liked the last para. Meanwhile, as P Magus will know, everyone had a great time. We need non pc letters as much as non pc events. Richard G, Gloucester
What a strange outlook on life Peter Magnus has. I guess he must be one of those extreme PC types who wish to re-write history or at least pretend what we now regard as the nasty bits did not happen. Yes a lot of Britain's history is military based so that is what will be reflected, but he should also remember we were the first to abolish slavery and the spent a lot of time and effort enforcing this. As to his comment about black people in the armies and navy of the past I am sure he is aware that one in ten of Nelsons sailors was black. He is one of those people that bleats on about under represented ethnic minorities at a time or place where none exist to be represented. I for one enjoyed the heritage day, but I also realise that the reason it was military based is because thats the thing that gets remembered. I am afraid the ordinary day to day stuff does unfortunately get sidetracked. Well done Gloucester city council, but can we have a bit more publicity next time please. Ian, Cheltenham
One piece of bad luck some in
this city will have had recently would have been to read Peter Magnus' letter of
the 3rd May. He clearly had neither understanding of the heritage day's
intentions, the background to what he saw or indeed the will to gain either.
That the foreign policy of the British Empire was misguided is probable, to the
modern eye. Mr Magnus evidently saw fit to look no further and see the infamous
Glorious Glosters who fought back to back in the red coats that to him says not
selflessness and courage but... white supremacy? Please. Schoolboys have been
brought up on the stories of warriors and soldiery for centuries. The "fighting"
on the day he mentions hardly constituted circling and beating up old grannies-
yet his call for them to instead wear hoodies, being as they are in his opinion
thugs, is beaten only in its power to baffle by the suggestion that to celebrate
the history of Gloucester, we should re-enact a mutinous group of gay sailors
with no apparent links to our city setting up a doomed colony in South America.
Please grow up. May I congratulate the organisers of the events my
congratulations on a job well done. Daniel Cuffe, Gloucester
My children thoroughly enjoyed the weekend learning about our history, especially learning how to fight like a knight and seeing the parade of people in their costumes. Our mayor Harjit Gill was down at the docks and seemed to be enjoying himself too. The atmosphere was great and it drew a lot of people into Gloucester as there was something for everyone. All I can say to Peter is that is a very big chip you have!! Vicky, Gloucester
Peter, this was our history, I suggest you get rid of that chip, and get a life. Marg, Gloucester
Is this guy mad? A labour councillor? I strongly suggest this awful bigoted tripe be removed from your site. Obviously this is the sort of thing you publish in your newspaper? Glad I don't live in Gloucester! A McCormick, Lincolnshire
A shame that Peter Magnus was unable to enjoy himself, unlike it would seem everyone else there. Yes there was a lack of ethnic minorities, can Mr Magnus (who doubtless knows better) please guide me to the sources that can tell me how many of these minority groups were in Gloucester at the different time periods represented? I also take issue at the portrayal of re-enactors as 'White Supremacists', a comment that is not only misguided but libelous as well. I have done re-enactment for 18 years and can assure him that it has nothing to do with white supremacy. An interest in history and a desire to have fun yes, racism no. And his comments about what would happen if a person of an ethnic minority wanted to join are idiotic in the extreme - in re-enactment, ALL (even people like Peter Magnus who obviously don't want others to have fun or learn about history) are welcome. lan Frize, Grangemouth, Scotland
Dear Mr Magnus, I took part in the event that you 'describe' and, as both a member of an ethnic minority and a homosexual, I was troubled by your comments. People of both of these 'communities' have taken part in the military history of this nations past for 2000 years and for you and others like you to suggest that we whitewash the memory of past events (and deprive people the enjoyment that they get from re-enactments in general) just because you have a bad case of middle-class liberal guilt is insulting to their memory and to the memories of those that they fought and died alongside. Hugh Jampton, Gloucester
As organisers of the Gloucester through the ages event on behalf of the City Council, we were delighted to read the comments from readers who enjoyed the show. Of course, it is never possible to please everyone, and Mr Magnus is entitled to his views, but just for the sake of balance we would like to confirm that this event encompassed many different themes and displays, only some of which were military in nature. However, Gloucester was originally built and often defended by soldiers (along with civilians during the famous siege of 1643) so it would be entirely inappropriate to exclude this theme. There were many non-military highlights too, including a recreation of a medieval pilgrimage to the cathedral, which was really very evocative (but perhaps Mr Magnus missed this). It may also interest readers to know that the Historical Maritime Society, who portrayed Nelson's navy, can find no historical reference to a mutiny by gay sailors, nor a ship called the Molly Rudge serving within the navy at the time. We'd also like to emphasise that neither re-enactment groups nor their displays exclude ethnic or gay members - the criteria for joining is (perhaps not surprisingly) simply a willingness to recreate history as accurately as possible - members' politics and sexual orientation are irrelevant. Howard Giles, Managing Director, EventPlan Limited, Leicestershire.
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